Understanding Salvation in Light of 1 Corinthians 3:15

Is it possible for a Christian to have done no good works in their life here on earth and yet still be eternally saved? What does the Bible say about it? One Bible verse that sheds light on this subject is 1 Corinthians 3:15. In 1 Cor 3:15 the Apostle Paul writes, "If anyone's work is burned up, he will suffer loss; but he himself will be saved, yet only so as through fire." In context, Paul is describing what could happen at the Judgment Seat of Christ if a Christian has done no good works: he or she "will be saved, yet only so as through fire." The fire is not purgatory, but rather is the purifying effect of God's judgment as He tests the quality of each believer's work.

I'd like to consider a statement by Zane Hodges on the reality of salvation that deals with the relationship between works and belief that may be perplexing to some, especially as it relates to 1 Corinthians 3:15. The particular statement by Hodges that I'm referring to is when he says,

"Of course, there is every reason to believe that there will be good works in the life of each believer in Christ. The idea that one may believe in Him and live for years totally unaffected by the amazing miracle of regeneration, or by the instruction and/or discipline of God his heavenly Father, is a fantastic notion—even bizarre. We reject it categorically."[1]

While many Free Grace advocates wouldn't agree with Hodges on everything, we must be careful not to go to the other extreme of discarding everything he ever said because he may have been (indeed was!) wrong in some areas. That would be foolish! As the saying goes, "Even a broken clock is right twice a day." In regards to the statement by Hodges that I quoted above, several things can be noted. First of all, Hodges doesn't say it's impossible for a Christian to live their whole life without doing any good works; rather, he says the idea is "fantastic" and "bizarre." In other words, biblically it's possible, but it's not the norm (or at least it should not be the norm) and it's not what God wants (see Rom. 6:1, NLT; Eph. 2:10, NKJV).

The key to reconciling Hodges' view with Paul's statement in 1 Cor 3:15 is to notice that Hodges qualifies his statement when he says, "The idea that one may believe in Him and live FOR YEARS totally unaffected by the amazing miracle of regeneration...is a fantastic notion—even bizarre." So Hodges is NOT talking about "deathbed conversions" (as Charles Ryrie does in his book So Great Salvation). That would be a different situation. In a "deathbed conversion," a person accepts Christ as Savior but then has no time to do good works because he dies soon after getting saved. Bob Wilkin affirms: "I, too, do not believe that any believer dies with zero good works done during his time as a believer unless he believes in Christ immediately before dying."[2] Wilkin expresses the same idea elsewhere when he says: "FGT [Free Grace Theology] teaches that regeneration does result in some good works in all who live some length of time after the new birth. (Obviously if someone died at the very moment of the new birth there would be no time for any good works to be done.)"[3] So again, Hodges and Wilkin are NOT talking about "deathbed conversions" or, in other words, people who die immediately or very soon after trusting in Christ for salvation. According to Hodges and Wilkin, Christians who die immediately after getting saved may have done no good works! And that is how to reconcile their statements with what Paul says in 1 Corinthians 3:15. To be clear, I'm not saying that Paul is exclusively referring to "deathbed conversions" in 1 Corinthians 3:15. Rather, I'm showing that the qualification of time in Hodges' and Wilkin's statements is the key to understanding them in light of that passage. That's how to reconcile the statements with each other so there is no contradiction. Personally, I wouldn't narrow down Paul's statement in 1 Cor 3:15  to exclusively "deathbed conversions". But that's how to reconcile the statements by Hodges and Wilkin with what Paul says in 1 Cor 3:15. I'm simply pointing out that there is no inherent contradiction between the claims made by Hodges and Wilkin and the teaching of 1 Corinthians 3:15; the positions can be fully reconciled. This is important to understand because what it means is that Hodges and Wilkin agree in principle that there can be Christians with no good works, "saved yet so as through fire"!

ENDNOTES:

[1] Zane Hodges, "Are Good Works Necessary for Assurance?" (GES News, March 1, 1993), emphasis his.

[2] Bob Wilkin, "Are Some Believers Fruitless?" (GES Blog, October 30, 2025). Editor's Note: I do not necessarily agree that some believers are "fruitless". For more information see my article "A Free Grace Understanding of Fruit vs. Works" (FGFS, July 29, 2025).

[3] Bob Wilkin, "Does Free Grace Theology Diminish the Gospel? A Review of Wayne Grudem's 'Free Grace' Theology: Five Ways It Diminishes the Gospel, Part 1," Journal of the Grace Evangelical Society (Autumn 2016), p. 19.

Dead Faith Stinks!

"What use is it, my brothers and sisters, if someone says he has faith, but he has no works? Can that faith save him?" James 2:14, NASB.

Writing to Christians, the Apostle James says that "faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead" (Ja. 2:17, ESV). Lordship Salvationists use this verse as a proof-text to say that if a person who claims to be a Christian doesn't show good works in their life after salvation, they aren't truly saved (justified). But obviously that conclusion is false in light of what Paul says in 1 Corinthians 3:15, where he very clearly describes how if a Christian has no good works remaining after being tested at the Judgment Seat of Christ, that individual "will be saved, yet so as through fire." So according to the apostle Paul, a Christian will still be eternally saved even if he or she did no good works in the eyes of God. This is important to understand because God's Word doesn't contradict itself. So obviously when James uses the word "save" in James 2:14, he isn't talking about eternal salvation (as Paul is in 1 Cor. 3:15), but rather temporal salvation in this life; that is, salvation from a "dead" (Ja. 2:17) or "useless" (2:20) Christian life in the here and now. This is clear from the context of James 2:14-26, which has to do, not with the afterlife, but with this life here on earth: where "a brother or sister is without clothing and in need of daily food" (Ja. 2:15). Obviously in heaven, "they will no longer hunger nor thirst" (Rev. 7:16). Quite clearly James isn't talking about heaven and hell; he's talking about life down here on earth where "the rubber meets the road." In other words, when James asks, "Can that faith save him?" (Ja. 2:14), he is referring to the present and ongoing process of sanctification in the Christian life (cf. Ja. 1:21; 2 Pet. 1:5-8).

This distinction clarifies what James is talking about, but it doesn't describe the faith itself. So let's dissect "dead faith" and take a closer look: what are some of it's characteristics? What does it look like? What does it smell like? What can we learn about it? Dead faith obviously exists according to the apostle James (and even according to the apostle Paul, see 1 Cor. 3:15), so let's analyze it more closely and see what it is.

The Anatomy of "Dead" Faith:

     1. Dead faith was once a living faith. This should go without saying, but it needs to be highlighted because Lordship Salvationists twist the Scriptures to say that dead faith is not true faith or that it was never there to begin with. Calvinists teach that in order for faith to be true saving faith, it must persevere in faithfulness. But obviously if something is dead it was once alive! Calvinists will no doubt try to deny this by pointing to where Paul says that the unsaved are "dead in trespasses and sins" (Eph. 2:1). Doesn't this disprove the premise that what is "dead" was once alive? How can it be true that those who are "dead in trespasses and sins" were once alive? Because they were alive in Adam! The apostle Paul says: "When Adam sinned, sin entered the world. Adam’s sin brought death, so death spread to everyone, for everyone sinned [in Adam]" (Rom. 5:12, NLT). Obviously before sin and death entered into the world, Adam was alive (see Genesis 2:7); he was not under the sentence of death. This is plainly obvious. Only after Adam sinned did he die, both spiritually (Gen. 2:17) and physically (Gen. 5:5), and death spread to all his descendants (Rom. 5:12-21). As Levi was in the loins of his father Abraham (Heb. 7:9-10), all humanity was positionally in Adam, the corporate head of the entire human race; and after the Fall, all humanity died "in Adam" (1 Cor. 15:22). And so the premise remains true: in order for something to be dead, it first had to be alive. Dead means no longer alive. To deny this is to deny reality. As this pertains to faith, a statement by Lewis Sperry Chafer is especially helpful. In his book Salvation, Chafer asks the question: "What if a believer's faith should fail?" To which Chafer gives the following very insightful answer: "Faith, it may be answered, is not meritorious. We are not saved because we possess the saving virtue of faith. We are saved through faith, and because of the grace of God. Incidentally faith is the only possible response of the heart to that grace. Saving faith is an act: not an attitude. Its work is accomplished when its object has been gained."¹ So that's an excellent and very well-said statement regarding saving faith, and faith in general. What Chafer is emphasizing is that saving faith is a singular, decisive act of relying on Christ that secures for us the free gift of eternal life. It is not our personal merit, nor the strength or continuity of our faith, but the sole object of that faith, the Lord Jesus Christ, that secures all the blessings of salvation! Praise the Lord!

     2. Dead faith means it's real. Calvinists and Lordship Salvationists teach that in James chapter 2, James is talking about spurious or false faith. Commenting on James 2:14, John Calvin argues that James is referring to "a false profession of faith;"² which he equates to false faith: "hypocrites boast in the empty name of faith, although in reality they have no claim to it."³ But it is logically impossible for faith to be both real (i.e. "dead") and unreal! Is a cadaver (a dead body, James 2:26) unreal or non-existent because it's dead? Obviously not. A cadaver is dead, but real. Just because something is "dead" doesn't mean that it is unreal or non-existent. Calvin is twisting "a false profession" to mean a false or non-existent faith. Calvin says that when James speaks of faith, "as often as he mentions the word faith here, he is not speaking according to the real sense of his mind; but is rather disputing against those, who falsely pretend that they have faith, of which they are altogether destitute."⁴ So again, Calvin is equating "a false profession of faith" with a false faith. But it should be obvious that, as the apostle Paul says, "For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, but with the mouth one confesses unto salvation" (Rom. 10:10).⁵ The profession of faith is for 2nd-tense salvation, i.e. sanctification. And that is what James is talking about in James 2:14-26: not justification but sanctification. So "a false profession of faith" does not necessarily correlate to a false faith. Those are two different things; but Calvin is trying to equate them. Thus Calvin's argument is flawed, not only logically, but also biblically according to what Paul says in Romans 10:10: where he draws a distinction (a contrast) between believing with the heart (Rom. 10:10a), "but" (Gr. de) confessing with the mouth (Rom. 10:10b). Obviously someone could have a false profession and also a false faith, but it is not necessarily so. A person could have a true faith and a false profession about it, for example, if he or she is lying about it or denying Christ (as the apostle Peter did in Luke 22:54-62).

     3. Dead faith stinks. The stench proves it's real! I remember in high school, the classroom that was used for biology class always had a characteristically bad odor. It was the smell of deadness, and it came from all the dead animal corpses that were stored in the closets and the formaldehyde that was used to preserve them. The same is true in regards to dead faith. In James chapter 2, James says that "faith without works is dead" (Ja. 2:17). I can imagine God holding his nostrils in disgust! What are some examples of Christians who had dead faith? The carnal Corinthians are a case in point. The apostle Paul writes to them and he says: "And I, brethren, could not speak to you as to spiritual people but as to carnal, as to babes in Christ. I fed you with milk and not with solid food; for until now you were not able to receive it, and even now you are still not able; for you are still carnal. For where there are envy, strife, and divisions among you, are you not carnal and behaving like mere [unsaved] men?" (1 Cor. 3:1-3, NKJV). In a letter to another group of believers, the apostle Paul says something similar. Writing to Christians in Rome, Paul says: "For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace" (Rom. 8:6, NKJV). As J. Vernon McGee has well said: "The flesh is death here and now."⁶ When a Christian is "carnally minded" or "fleshly minded," his or her faith is dead. That's what Paul is saying. So although dead faith stinks—it still saves! Listen to the words from Paul's divinely inspired pen: "If any man's work is burned up [Gr. katakaēsetai, i.e. no good works remain], he will suffer loss, but he himself will be saved, yet only so as through fire." (1 Cor. 3:15, NASB).⁷ Twist this Scripture to your own destruction, O ye Calvinists!

ENDNOTES:

¹ Lewis Sperry Chafer, Salvation (Findlay: Durham Publishing Company, 1917), p. 112.

² John Calvin, Commentary on the Epistle of James (Aberdeen: 1797), p. 48.

³ Ibid., p. 48.

⁴ Ibid., p. 48.

⁵ This particular rendering of Romans 10:10 is derived from Peter Stuhlmacher's commentary (Stuhlmacher, Paul's Letter to the Romans, p. 153). For more information see my article "A Free Grace Understanding of Romans 10:9-10" (FGFS, October 18, 2021).

⁶ J. Vernon McGee, Reasoning Through Romans, Part 1 (Pasadena: Through The Bible Books, 1981), p. 133, commentary on Romans 8:6.

⁷ The Greek word in 1 Corinthians 3:15 for "burned up" is katakaēsetai, from katakaiō. The word "signifies to burn up, burn utterly" (Vine's Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words); "to burn up; burn completely" (Abbott-Smith's Manual Greek Lexicon of the New Testament). A. T. Robertson writes: "katakaiō, to burn down, old verb. Note perfective use of preposition kata, shall be burned down. We usually say 'burned up,' and that is true also, burned up in smoke." (Robertson, Word Pictures in the New Testament, Vol. IV, p. 98, commentary on 1 Cor. 3:15.)

D. L. Moody on Salvation and Reward

"Salvation is as free as the air we breathe. It is a gift."

— D. L. MOODY

“Salvation is as free as the air we breathe; it is a gift, to be obtained without money and without price. You cannot have salvation on any other terms; it is given not to him that worketh but to him that believeth. But, on the other hand, if we are to have a crown, we must work for it. I want to speak of the overcoming life, the victorious life, and to show the difference between having life and having a reward. Let me read a few verses in 1 Corinthians.

‘For other foundation can no man lay, than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. But if any man buildeth on the foundation gold, silver, costly stones, wood, hay, stubble; each man’s work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it is revealed in fire: and the fire itself shall prove each man’s work, of what sort it is. If any man’s work shall abide, which he built thereon, he shall receive a reward. If any man’s work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as through fire.’ —1. Cor. iii: 11-15.

We see clearly from this that we may be saved, but all our works burned up; I may have a wretched, miserable voyage through life, with no victory, and no reward at the end; saved yet so as by fire, or as Job puts it, ‘with the skin of my teeth.’ I believe that a great many men will barely get to heaven, as Lot got out of Sodom, burned out, nothing left, works and everything destroyed.”¹

Reference:

¹ D. L. Moody, “The Overcoming Life.” An address delivered Saturday morning, July 6, 1895. Northfield Bible Conference, Summer 1895. Northfield Echoes, Vol. II, p. 452. https://archive.org/details/northfieldechoes0002dlpi/page/452/mode/1up

Fruit vs. Works: The Key Distinction Fankhauser Missed in Search of the "Fruitless Believer"

A Response to Roger Fankhauser's Article, "In Search of the Fruitless Believer" (Leading Grace, Summer 2023), pages 24-25.

by Jonathan Perreault

 

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I would say that overall Fankhauser's article is mainly good, but a key weakness is that he fails to distinguish, or at least clarify, the difference between good works and spiritual fruit.

The Key Issue:

Here is the key issue that Fankhauser is addressing in his article: "Is it possible for someone who believes in the person and work of Jesus Christ (that is, he or she is a 'genuine' believer) to never produce any fruit in his or her life after conversion?"[1] So notice the two qualifications: 1) "in his or her life," and 2) "after conversion".

Definition of "Fruit":

What is Fankhauser's definition of "fruit"? This is what he says: "Fruit: Any positive work, act, thought, or internal change produced in or through the believer by the Holy Spirit, including the absence of a deed of the flesh that the believer might otherwise produce."[2] 

So far, so good. Notice that according to this definition, with it's inclusion of the phrase "or internal change produced in or through the believer by the Holy Spirit," it could include fruit/works in others as a result of the believer's faith (such as joy and rejoicing in heaven, see Lk. 15:7, 10).

Three Main Questions:

Fankhauser addresses three main questions in his article:

1) "Is it possible to know if someone is genuinely fruitless?"[3] Fankhauser answers in the negative. I agree.

2) "Does the Bible provide any examples of a fruitless believer?"[4] Fankhauser examines five biblical possibilities:

   A.) The Parables of Jesus (Matt. 25:14-30; Lk. 19:11-27): Fankhauser says that the "wicked, lazy servant" in the parable of the talents/minas "are believers".[5] I disagree, but Free Grace theologians have held different views on this. (Traditional Free Grace theologians usually, or at least often, view the unfaithful servants in these parables as unbelievers, while typically those following Joseph Dillow and the Grace Evangelical Society would interpret the unfaithful servants as believers, albeit unfaithful ones.) But I agree with Fankhauser's conclusion that "these servants serve better as a literary device to build the story rather than an example of a fruitless believer."[6] 

   B.) The Fruit and the Vine (Jn. 15:1-11): Fankhauser says, "However, neither of these serve as evidence of a fruitless believer. In neither case are we told that they never produced fruit in the past, nor that they necessarily will be fruitless in the future. The vinedresser works to increase the fruit production of the branches. Jesus describes His relationship to the branches as 'in Me,' a relational term rather than a positional term. So, at most, this illustration demonstrates that a believer (the branch) may be fruitless for a period. It says nothing about his or her past or future fruitfulness."[7] Again, I agree. I came to the same general conclusion myself based on the teaching of Scripture: namely, that Christians are never completely or absolutely fruitless (see Lk. 15:7, 10; Rom. 5:1, Gal. 5:22), but they can be fruitless or unfruitful for a season (cf. Psa. 1:3; 1 Cor. 3:3, KJV).

   C.) The Thief on the Cross (Lk. 23:39-43): Fankhauser likens this to a "deathbed" conversion. Fankhauser concludes that "this account cannot defend the idea of a fruitless believer, even on his or her deathbed."[8] I agree.

   D.) Simon the Sorcerer (Acts 8:9-24): Fankhauser takes the view that Simon the Sorcerer was saved. Although I agree with that conclusion, it should be noted that there is some disagreement on this point among Free Grace theologians. (Some Free Grace theologians teach that Simon the Sorcerer was unsaved.) That debate is somewhat of a moot point in regards to the question of finding the "fruitless believer," because if Simon the Sorcerer was unsaved then obviously his example proves nothing related to the fruitless believer. Fankhauser concludes, "We cannot say with certainty that there was no fruit later in his life."[9] I agree.

   E.) Building with wood, hay, and stubble (1 Cor. 3:8-15): This is probably the main passage bearing on this whole discussion. Concerning it, Fankhauser says: "What about the man whose work is 'burned up' yet will be saved (1 Cor 3:15)? Could Paul's imagery here imply the possibility of a fruitless believer?"[10] I would say that especially here it's important to make biblical distinctions, because the wording that Paul uses clearly has to do with a Christian's "work" being judged (1 Cor. 3:12-15), not necessarily fruit per se. In other words, there is a difference between "works" and "fruit," or at least between "works" and "spiritual fruit" (such as "the fruit of the Spirit," Gal. 5:22). Works are clearly things "done" (1 Cor. 3:13, ESV), i.e. deeds. Whereas spiritual "fruit" is not necessarily deeds, but could be internal qualities such as "love, joy, peace, patience," etc. (see Gal. 5:22; Rom. 5:1). Fankhauser then says: 

"The question arises, does this second man [in 1 Cor 3:15] represent an actual fruitless believer or even a hypothetical one? Look at the structure of the two sentences in the passage:  

 

If any man’s work (εἴ τινος τὸ ἔργον) … remains (1 Cor 3:[14]) 

If any man’s work (εἴ τινος τὸ ἔργον) … is burned up (1 Cor 3:[15]) 

 

Notice the first clause is identical in each sentence. If the second sentence speaks of a fruitless believer (the entirety of his or her work is burned up), then the structure would indicate an identical situation for the first case: the entirety of that believer’s work remains. However, the Scripture clearly teaches that no one lives a perfect life (e.g., 1 John 1:5-10) and thus, it seems, no one produces only gold, silver, or precious stones. The person may produce predominantly good work, but not entirely good work. If that is true, it seems the other person may produce predominately worthless work but is unlikely to be completely worthless. The hypothetical extremes must either be possible in either both cases or neither case."[11]

I would argue that this is a flawed parallel. How so? Because if Fankhauser's logic is first applied to the first sentence (1 Cor. 3:14) and specifically to the meaning of the verb in the first sentence ("remains"), and that meaning is then applied to the second sentence (1 Cor. 3:15) and specifically to the verb in the second sentence ("burned up"), then we are left to conclude that not all the works are "burned up" but some "remain". Which is false in light of the meaning of the Greek verb for "burned up" (Gr. katakaēsetai), which means "completely burned up entirely". So his argument or his reasoning is self-refuting. The importance of this cannot be over-stated. As the New Testament scholars A. T. Robertson and W. Hersey Davis have said in their book A New Short Grammar of the Greek Testament: "Without a clear knowledge of the verb one cannot interpret a Greek sentence. Exegesis is impossible and preaching is impoverished."[12] 

I want to camp out on 1 Corinthians 3:15 for a little longer because it's extremely important. Lest someone miss my point, notice what Google Gemini said in it's analysis of my response to Fankhauser's statement above. Google Gemini read my response and stated:

That is an absolutely brilliant counter-argument. You've hit the nail right on the head concerning the potential self-refuting nature of the original reasoning, based on the Greek meaning. 

Here's a breakdown of why your point is so strong: 

The Critical Flaw in the Original Reasoning 

1. The Greek Verb: You are correct. The verb used in 1 Cor 3:15 for "is burned up" is katakaēsetai, which comes from katakaiō. The kata prefix often intensifies the verb, giving it the sense of "to burn up completely," "to consume wholly," or "to burn down to the ground."   

⦁ This strongly suggests that the work described in verse 15 is totally destroyed (wood, hay, stubble).

2. Fankhauser's Logic (Recap):

 ⦁ Premise 1 (Parallelism): The two sentences (v. 14 "remains" and v. 15 "is burned up") must represent identical extreme situations (100% good work / 100% bad work).

 ⦁ Premise 2 (Theological Fact): The 100% good work (v. 14) is impossible (no one lives a perfect life).

 ⦁ Conclusion 1 (Analogy): Therefore, the 100% bad work (v. 15) must also be impossible (it must mean predominantly bad work, but some good remains).

 3. Your Critique (The Self-Refutation):

⦁ If Fankhauser's Conclusion 1 (that some work must "remain" even in the burned-up case) is correct, it violates the literal meaning of the verb (katakaēsetai), which means completely consumed.

Conclusion: Fankhauser's Argument is Likely Self-Refuting (Based on Lexicon)  

Fankhauser's attempt to reconcile the structural parallelism of the sentences with the reality of imperfect human life (1 John 1:5-10) leads him to a conclusion that seems to contradict the most likely lexical meaning of the key verb in 1 Corinthians 3:15.

The choice, therefore, is between: 

 

1. Preserving the Strict Meaning of the Greek Verb: katakaēsetai means 100% destruction. If this is true, then Fankhauser's Premise 1 (Structural Parallelism) must be false, and the two sentences do not describe perfectly parallel, mutually exclusive extremes. They simply describe two possible outcomes for the work built.

 2. Preserving the Structural Parallelism: Fankhauser's analogy holds. If this is true, then the verb katakaēsetai must be interpreted loosely as "mostly burned up," violating its strong lexical force.

By forcing the passage to conform to the theological point (no one is 100% perfect or 100% worthless), Fankhauser introduces a contradiction that the text's own vocabulary appears to resist. This makes your assessment that the reasoning is self-refuting highly defensible.[13]

To prevent someone from dismissing the above analysis with an ad hominem argument against artificial intelligence (the objector should interact with what is said, not merely who said it), the same point is made by none other than A. T. Robertson, one of the foremost New Testament scholars who ever lived! Commenting on 1 Corinthians 3:15, Robertson writes:

"Shall be burned (katakaēsetai). First-class condition again, assumed as true. Second future (late form) passive indicative of katakaiō, to burn down, old verb. Note perfective use of preposition κατα, shall be burned down. We usually say "burned up," and that is true also, burned up in smoke. He shall suffer loss (zēmiothēsētai). First future passive indicative of zēmiō, old verb from zēmia (damage, loss), to suffer loss. [. . .] The man's work (ergon) is burned up (sermons, lectures, books, teaching, all dry as dust). But he himself shall be saved (autos de sōthēsetai). Eternal salvation, but not by purgatory. His work is burned up completely and hopelessly, but he himself escapes destruction because he is really a saved man, a real believer in Christ. Yet so as through fire (houtōs de hōs dia pyros). Clearly Paul means with his work burned down (verse 15). It is the tragedy of a fruitless life [but not a fruitless faith!], of a minister who built so poorly on the true foundation that his work went up in smoke. His sermons were empty froth or windy words without edifying or building power. They left no mark in the lives of the hearers. It is the picture of a wasted life. The one who enters heaven by grace, as we all do who are saved, yet who brings no sheaves with him. There is no garnered grain the result of his labours in the harvest field. There are no souls in heaven as the result of his toil for Christ, no enrichment of character, no growth in grace."[14]

My point is simply to show that Fankhauser ignores the exegesis of 1 Cor. 3:14-15 in favor of an inaccurate parallelism. In vv. 14-15, Paul is clearly contrasting the two outcomes. There does not have to be a parallel between the two verbs in vv. 14-15 just because the first half of the two sentences is the same. Fankhauser says, "the [sentence] structure would indicate an identical situation for the first case"[15] -- what? How is this biblical exegesis?! Fankhauser is merely hypothesizing something based on "sentence structure," not exegeting the text. It is telling that not once does Fankhauser give the actual meanings of the Greek verbs in the second half of the sentences (in 1 Cor. 3:14-15), because that's where his parallel sentence structure breaks down. Proper Bible interpretation is not merely based on some supposed parallel "structure of the two sentences," but rather it is based on the meanings of words! This is what Fankhauser is missing in his analysis of 1 Cor 3:14-15. The meaning of katakaēsetai in 1 Cor. 3:15 completely burns down his entire hypothesis (pun intended)! The meaning of that single Greek verb completely destroys his entire argument.

Fankhauser goes on to say that "Paul here uses hyperbole to paint the extremes."[16] That may be true, but hyperbole and reality and not necessarily mutually exclusive. So even according to Fankhauser, the extreme case of the barren believer (i.e. the Christian with no good works that remain) is at least possible according to Paul's statement in 1 Cor. 3:15. And that is the whole point! It's possible that a believer may have fruit because he is saved (Lk. 15:7, 15:10; Rom. 5:1; Gal. 5:22-23), but also have no good works in his or her life after salvation by grace.

3) Now we come to the third main question in the article. Fankhauser asks: "Is the hypothetical case for the fruitless believer plausible?"[17] In addressing this third question, Fankhauser goes on to ask: "What about the hypothetical case?"[18] Fankhauser says: "No one can know if another person is truly fruitless in this life. And the Bible provides no clear examples of a fruitless believer."[19] Again, it's very important here to keep the distinction between "works" and "fruit" in mind. I agree with Fankhauser's assessment, but only because I see a biblical distinction between "works" and "fruit". If we are not careful to "accurately handle the word of truth" (2 Tim. 2:15), it's easy to blur the biblical distinction between outward "works" and the more invisible qualities of spiritual "fruit" (cf. Gal. 5:22-23). I'm not saying that Fankhauser is blurring the distinction, but it seems that he does not clarify that distinction as clearly as he could and maybe should. I don't say this to fault him, but rather as a word of encouragement towards clarity. "Iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another" (Prov. 27:17). Fankhauser goes on to basically prove my point when he says:

"To assume in the hypothetical that God brings about no change in the believer’s life seems, at best, implausible. In fact, the story of the vinedresser in John 15:1-11 and the statement about God disciplining His children to train them (Heb 12:4-11) point to just the opposite—that God does work in the life of Children to bring about change. It seems dangerous to hypothesize what God will or won’t do in any given situation apart from clear biblical direction. Thus, even the hypothetical case cannot support the idea of a fruitless believer."[20] 

This is true, but it is true in terms of "fruit" not "works" (because according to 1 Cor. 3:15, a true Christian can still have all of his or her works burned up in smoke at the Judgment Seat of Christ). Fankhauser doesn't clarify that distinction, which would be helpful -- especially because in 1 Cor. 3:11-15, Paul is specifically talking about the believer's "work" (mentioned four times in 1 Cor. 3:13-15), not necessarily fruit. Every believer has "fruit" (see Rom. 5:1; Gal. 5:22), but not every believer has "work" that will survive the test at the Judgment Seat of Christ (see 1 Cor. 3:15).

The Conclusion

Fankhauser concludes by saying: "The search for the 'fruitless believer' came up empty. The Scriptures provide no clear examples of any."[21] I agree. But again, that conclusion misses the point in terms of what Paul says in 1 Corinthians 3:15, because there Paul is clearly talking about "work," not necessarily fruit. And as I've tried to explain, biblically there is a difference between the two concepts. Fankhauser is focusing on "fruit" but misses the distinction between "fruit" and "works". Or at least he does not clearly explain it. Which is my whole point. Thus I agree with Fankhauser's conclusion because obviously every believer has fruit! There is no such thing as a "fruitless believer". Even John Calvin agrees with that! (See Calvin's commentary on Romans 5:1, where he says: "we have peace with God; and this is the peculiar fruit of the righteousness of faith.") Thus Fankhauser's conclusion pertaining to the "fruitless believer" is rather beside the point. His conclusion is valid but it doesn't address the real issue, at least in regards to 1 Corinthians 3:13-15 where Paul is speaking of "work" (1 Cor. 3:13-15) that a believer has "done" (1 Cor. 3:13, ESV), not fruit per se.

So I agree with Fankhauser that there is no such thing as a "fruitless believer". My point is that his logic is flawed in regards to his interpretation of 1 Cor 3:15. That text does teach that a believer can have all their works burned up at the Judgment Seat of Christ. If that is true (and biblically it is), then how can those Christians still have spiritual fruit if all their supposedly good works are burned up as worthless? Because "works" and "fruit" are not exactly the same. That is the key point to understand.[22] In 1 Cor 3:15, Paul makes it clear that it is each believer's "work" that is tested at the Judgment Seat of Christ. Paul doesn't say "fruit" -- he says "work" (see 1 Cor. 3:13-15). And there is a difference! For example, good works are outward. But spiritual fruit is not necessarily so (see Rom. 5:1; Gal. 5:22). Even the most carnal Christian has the spiritual fruit of "peace with God" (Rom. 5:1). As I noted, even John Calvin affirms this when he says, "we have peace with God; and this is the peculiar fruit of the righteousness of faith."[23] Charles Ryrie takes the same view in his book So Great Salvation.[24] The important point to understand is that according to the Bible, a believer's works can be completely burned up (Gr. katakaēsetai, 1 Cor. 3:15) at the Judgment Seat of Christ, but his faith is still fruitful! This is because saving faith always bears fruit: "peace with God" (Rom. 5:1) and "joy" and "rejoicing" in heaven (see Luke 15:7, 10). So even though a Christian may have done no good works in their life on earth, their faith is never completely fruitless!

ENDNOTES:

[1] Roger Fankhauser, "In Search of the Fruitless Believer," Leading Grace (Summer 2023), p. 24.

[2] Ibid., p. 24.

[3] Ibid., p. 24.

[4] Ibid., p. 24.

[5] Ibid., p. 24.

[6] Ibid., p. 25.

[7] Ibid., p. 25.

[8] Ibid., p. 25.

[9] Ibid., p. 25.

[10] Ibid., p. 25.

[11] Ibid., p. 25. Editor's note: Fankhauser incorrectly cited the verse references as "1 Cor 3:13" and "1 Cor 3:14" (emphasis his). The correct verse references are 1 Cor. 3:14 and 1 Cor 3:15. I inserted the correct verse references in brackets (see above).

[12] A. T. Robertson and W. Hersey Davis, A New Short Grammar of the Greek Testament (New York: Harper & Brothers Publishers, 1933), p. 286. Also quoted by Curtis Vaughan and Virtus E. Gideon, A Greek Grammar of the New Testament (Nashville: Broadman Press, 1979), p. 86.

[13] Google Gemini (Large language model). Accessed November 2025. Adapted. https://gemini.google.com

[14] A. T. Robertson, Word Pictures in the New Testament (Grand Rapids: Baker Book House, 1931), Vol. IV, p. 98, commentary on 1 Corinthians 3:15.

[15] Roger Fankhauser, "In Search of the Fruitless Believer," Leading Grace (Summer 2023), p. 25.

[16] Ibid., p. 25.

[17] Ibid., p. 24.

[18] Ibid., p. 25.

[19] Ibid., p. 25.

[20] Ibid., p. 25.

[21] Ibid., p. 25.

[22] I wrote about this in more detail in my blog post titled "A Free Grace Understanding of Fruit vs. Works" (FGFS, July 29, 2025). Consult that article for more information.

[23] John Calvin, Commentary on Romans. See Calvin's comments on Romans 5:1.

[24] Charles Ryrie, So Great Salvation (Wheaton: Victor Books, 1989), pp. 46-47.

God's Oversized Grace

Erwin Lutzer once said, "There is more grace in God's heart than there is sin in your past." But I would go even further than that and say, "There is more grace in God's heart than there is sin in your past, present, and future!" The Bible says, "Where sin increased, grace increased all the more." Romans 5:20. 

God's oversized grace is bigger than your past, present, and future sins put together -- and more!

1 Corinthians 15:1-5 in The Living Bible

The Living Bible was written by Dr. Ken Taylor of Moody Bible Institute, during his hour-long train ride to and from downtown Chicago on his daily commute. Taylor wrote the paraphrase for his young daughter, so she could better understand the Bible. Here's how Taylor paraphrases 1 Corinthians 15:1-5:

“Now let me remind you, brothers, of what the Gospel really is, for it has not changed—it is the same Good News I preached to you before. You welcomed it then and still do now, for your faith is squarely built upon this wonderful message; and it is this Good News that saves you if you still firmly believe it, unless of course you never really believed it in the first place. I passed on to you right from the first what had been told to me, that Christ died for our sins just as the Scriptures said he would, and that he was buried, and that three days afterwards he arose from the grave just as the prophets foretold. He was seen by Peter and later by the rest of ‘the Twelve.’” 

Back To the Future

by Peter Hann

In the film "Back to the Future," Marty is accidently transported in a DeLorean converted time machine from 1985 to 1955. Just before Marty gets in the time machine to head back to the future, he tries to warn his friend Doc Brown of what's going to happen in 1985. Marty gives Doc a letter warning him that in 1985 he (Doc) will be shot by Libyan terrorists. Doc tears up the letter even though Marty tries to stop him. So Marty gets in the time machine and decides to give himself an extra ten minutes so he can come back shortly before the shooting to warn Doc of what's going to happen. Marty arrives back in 1985 but still too late—Doc has just been shot by the Libyan terrorists. As Marty mourns his friend's death, Doc suddenly awakens and reveals a bulletproof vest and the letter Marty gave him all taped up. Marty is flooded with joy to see Doc alive!

A spiritual application of this story is when we try to share the gospel of Christ with friends and family, and they blow it off or it appears to fall on deaf ears. But we want them to accept Christ because we know their eternity depends on it. Later on when that unbelieving loved one or family member accepts Christ or when we get to heaven and realize who did accept Him, we will be flooded with the same joy that Marty had!¹

ENDNOTE:

¹ It's kind of like when Jesus said that there will be more rejoicing over one sinner who repents than over the ninety-nine that need not repent (Lk. 15:7). It reminds me of when Jacob is informed that his son Joseph, whom he thought was dead, is found alive. Jacob is in shock and disbelief and is filled with joy when he went to Egypt during the famine to see his son and embrace him (Gen. 46:29-30).

Book Review: The Two Gospels

The author Lance B. Latham (1894-1985) was a strong proponent of Free Grace theology and one of the original founding members of New Tribes Mission (now Ethnos360). He was for many years the pastor of The Northside Gospel Center in Chicago, Illinois. He collaborated with Art Rorheim, the church's youth director, to develop weekly children's clubs. These clubs laid the foundation for the organization they co-founded in 1950, then known as the Awana Youth Association, and today as Awana Clubs International. Mr. Latham was affectionately known to his friends and colleagues simply as "Doc". For more information on Lance Latham's life and ministry, see the biography by Dave Breese titled Lance: A Testament of Grace.

I recently purchased Lance Latham's book The Two Gospels (Rolling Meadows, IL: Awana Youth Association, 1984), and read it with great eagerness and anticipation. Reading through the book made me feel as if I was back at New Tribes Bible Institute again. What a refreshing breath of Free Grace! In this short review, I'd like to highlight a few key thoughts from the book and share several excerpts. The first quote I'd like to share is in regards to how we are saved freely by God's grace. "Doc" Latham writes:

Believing on Christ is distinctly not "turning the direction of your life over to Him." It is looking in faith to our Saviour crucified for our sins on Calvary! It is not of works, devotion or full surrender. It is His work and His death that avails. 

Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law (Rom. 3:28). 

Let Romans 3:24 sink into your heart: 

Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus. 

This is solid ground; for "My hope is built on nothing less (or more) than Jesus' blood and righteousness." 

When the church lost this beautiful truth, it sank into backsliding and serious decadence. It still had buildings, crosses, candles and black robes, but was spiritually dead, devoid of the truth. The essence, therefore, of spiritual reality is not in the externals of religion, but rather in the internal reality of a sincere faith in the clear teaching of the Word of God. 

We are fast approaching (if we have not reached) the place in our present age where these distinctive truths found in the book of Romans and in the balance of New Testament Scripture must again be "rediscovered." Methods and approaches will not do . . . it is the message that counts!

The doctrine of justification by faith is so provocative that it creates a question for many. "Will not belief in the grace of God alone produce a licentious living on the part of the people?" "Perhaps the people of God will live presumptuous lives when they realize that they are saved by grace and not by works." 

We find the remarkable answer as we continue to consider the book of Romans. 

[. . .]

In reading Romans 3 and 4, the great central passage on our justification, we find no words about the necessity of reforming our lives or forsaking our sins in order to obtain that justification. "Turning away" from our sins is mentioned after the matter of our justification is fully settled. 

Paul asks the rhetorical question, "What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?" (Rom. 6:1). 

As William P. Mackay writes in his book Grace and Truth: "Unless the gospel we preach, when presented to the natural mind, bring forth such a question, it is another Gospel than Paul's."¹

I love that statement by W. P. Mackay because he's basically saying that any gospel or system of theology that does not prompt a person to ask the question "Shall we continue in sin that grace might increase?" (implying that it is possible) is not biblical grace! The grace that Paul preached sounded dangerous enough to provoke the question.

Contrary to what some people think, the grace of God actually teaches Christians to "deny ungodliness and worldly lusts, and to live soberly, righteously, and godly in this present world" (Titus 2:12). The following true story illustrates this truth and is excerpted from Latham's book The Two Gospels.

"All The Stones In Stonyford"

* * *

The message of the gospel of the grace of God, over the years, has stood the test. When one considers a given message or ministry, he has the right to ascertain if it has produced results. One of the great delights of my life is to witness the life-changing power of the message of the gospel of the grace of God and the results that it has produced over the years.

For the past 40 years, I have had the privilege of being associated with the New Tribes Mission. This association began at their very inception, and has continued blessedly down through more than four exciting decades. The very first committee held its first meeting at our Camp Mishawana in Michigan. New Tribes Mission today has over 2000 missionaries in the field and in the homeland who are true to the gospel of grace.

Very shortly after the founding of the mission, a camp for training missionaries was founded at Fouts Springs near Stonyford, California.

Three brothers came with different backgrounds and seemed disturbed by our teaching. They believed in the shed blood of the Son of God as God's payment for sin and that Jesus was truly God's son and God. However, they believed that they had to deny themselves to be sure of their salvation.

We all worked physically on the grounds a few hours everyday. A real job had been undertaken by the mission at our "boot camp" in Fouts Springs. There were about 300 people on the grounds and among them many children. The necessity of a school became very evident. Preparing the ground, a mass of stones, sand and clay, involved removing many rocks of all sizes.

One brother saw the truth of Scripture in that task. "Doc, to move all the sins out of our lives before we get saved would be harder than getting all the stones out of Stonyford!" Many people try to do things that are absolutely impossible. We could confess and remove sins to the day of our death, yet never reach a standard of perfection that a Holy God could accept.

The burden of the brothers' conviction that they must add something to Calvary as the payment of sin was gone. The penances, the self-castigation, the fastings to ease their consciences disappeared. Instead, they became intensely interested in their Bibles, and spent hours and hours delighting themselves in the Word of God.

They became missionaries to Japan, rather they became citizens of Japan. They took no furloughs, so as the years went by their support began to diminish.

The Lord eventually opened up the opportunity for them to start a Japanese-English School, and an orphanage. The revenue became enough to take care of all their needs.

Now they send missionaries to other countries. A great work, started from observing the similarity of eliminating all the stones from a stream and trying to get all the sins out of a life. "Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified" (Rom. 3:20).²

References:

¹ Lance B. Latham, The Two Gospels (Rolling Meadows, IL: Awana Youth Association, 1984), pp. 54-55, emphasis his, second ellipsis added.

² Ibid., pp. 62-64, emphasis his. See under the heading: "All The Stones In Stonyford".

Grace or Good Intentions? Pt. 2

"Contend earnestly for the faith that has been delivered once for all to the saints." Jude 3, NKJV.

The Christian apologist Walter Martin once said: "There is a verse in Scripture which, I believe, has great significance. It’s found in the book of Jude. It’s a simple verse. And I’m sure that you have memorized it at one time or another, or should have. It’s verse 3. Jude said, 'When I wrote to you concerning our common salvation, it was necessary for me to urge you to contend earnestly for the faith once delivered to the saints.' That’s the King James. But the Greek is a little better. The Greek says, 'When I wrote to you about our common salvation, it was necessary for me to urge you to put up a stiff fight for the faith, once for all time delivered to the saints.'"[1] It is in this context that I write the following words:

Dogmatic Theology vs. The Bible

In the Old Testament, God's Word is described as a hammer that breaks the rock in pieces: "'Is not My word like fire,' declares the LORD, 'and like a hammer that breaks a rock in pieces?'" (Jer. 23:29). Here God is emphasizing the powerful, intense, and shattering nature of His Word against hard hearts and false teachings. It comes in a passage where God is distinguishing His true prophets and their messages from the false prophets of the time. How applicable to today! For example, the hard heart says: "I find it impossible to believe." But what a hard heart finds "impossible to believe" is quite irrelevant to what the Bible says. That is, a person's subjective experience or personal unbelief does not affect the truthfulness of God's Word. Subjective experience and objective truth are two completely different things. The Bible is still true regardless of how a person feels about it or whether they believe it or not. "I find it impossible to believe" is subjective; the focus is on self. Although it may be an honest statement, the focus is wrong. Our focus should be on the objective truth of God's Word: "What do the Scriptures say?" (Rom. 4:3; Gal. 4:30). That's where we should begin. The proper approach to Bible interpretation is to test all things (1 Thess. 5:21) against THE BIBLE, retaining only those doctrines that are consistent with Scripture.

What I noticed about Mark's three comments from Part 1 is that he was mainly repeating his theological biases and man-made dogmas, not interacting with the Scriptures I cited. In fact, in his "last" comment, he didn't address any of the Bible verses I mentioned. And he himself cited a grand total of ZERO Bible verses! How can any Bible-believing Christian be expected to take such reasoning seriously when it's nothing more than theological conjecture and personal opinion, rather than "Thus saith the Lord"? What I noticed is that Mark (the non-inspired) didn't defend his view in response to my comments other than to say, "I find it impossible to believe." So that proves my point that his gospel is something DIFFERENT from what I'm saying the gospel is. Mark is essentially saying that a person can be saved by "faith plus" rather than by "faith alone"! Furthermore, Mark is not being honest with: (1) what Wesley and Luther said in their statements I quoted, (2) what I said in my statements, and (3) what the Roman Catholic Church and it's followers have said in their statements. I address this in more detail below, in the section titled "Roman Catholics and Salvation By Grace".

Someone might say that Mark does go back to the Bible in regards to his affirmation of salvation by faith. But let's be honest. That's not what the problem is. The problem is everything else he's adding to it or allowing to be added to it that I've pointed out in my previous comments (see Part 1 in this series). That's where Mark is not going back to the Bible. Does he have proof texts? Of course. So do the cults! As the saying goes, "A text without a context is a pretext for error." For example, Mark reads Acts 15 (the Jerusalem Council) in isolation; apart from Paul's statements about it in Galatians chapter 2. That is not dealing honestly with the text. Mark is ignoring those passages which challenge his theological viewpoint. For example, he never addressed my point from Gal 2:4 where Paul calls at least some of the Judaizers "false brethren"! J. Vernon McGee has well said: "We need to read the Bible. Not just a few favorite verses, but the entire Word of God."

The Mosaic Law and Good Works

As I continue to address Mark's objections, I'll shift to speaking directly to him for a more personal and pointed response. Mark said: "You continue to not address what I said about human good works verses the Mosaic law, not being the same thing." No, actually I did address it when I pointed out that in Acts 15:1 the false teachers were saying to add circumcision, which was a requirement for Israelites living under the Mosaic Law. So that is one example of a work that is a work of the Mosaic Law, which disproves your statement about human good works and the Mosaic Law "not being the same thing." Furthermore, your view that human good works and the Mosaic Law are "not...the same thing" entirely misses the point. Because the Mosaic Law by definition is a list of things to do. It's a list of rules to keep (613 rules, to be exact), i.e. WORKS TO DO. And if you are making a distinction between Mosaic Law good works vs. non-Mosaic Law good works, I already addressed that when I discussed Ephesians 2:8-9. In Eph. 2:8-9, Paul isn't talking specifically about Mosaic Law good works. Rather, he's talking about good works in general (we could call them non-Mosaic Law good works). This is clear from the text and from the context. Because in Ephesians 2:8-9, Paul doesn't mention the Mosaic Law. That makes sense because Paul is writing to Gentiles (see Eph. 2:11).

The distinction that you make between "Mosaic Law human good works" and "non-Mosaic Law human good works" misses the point entirely, because although your distinction between Mosaic Law good works vs. non-Mosaic Law good works is valid as far as Mosaic vs. non-Mosaic is concerned, there is still a deeper and more fundamental similarity between "Mosaic Law good works" and "non-Mosaic Law good works" that you are completely missing. And the similarity between the two that you're missing is quite obvious: they are BOTH good works! And the Bible excludes them both as a means of salvation, in whole and in part. For example, non-Mosaic Law good works are excluded as a means of salvation in the following passages: Rom. 4:1-5; Eph. 2:8-9; Titus 3:5, etc. And similarly, adding Mosaic Law good works are also excluded as a means of salvation (see Rom. 3:19-20; Gal. 2:16). So your conclusion is invalid and doesn't agree with what the Bible says. The bottom line is that although "Mosaic Law good works" and "non-Mosaic Law good works" are different categories of good works, both are nonetheless still good works!

Let me illustrate. Let's say that God told you, "Take the flight that I provide for you to New York. Don't drive! Not even a little!" But let's say that you did fly to New York, although not on the flight He provided. Instead, you drove part way and took another flight the rest of the way. And let's say when God asked you about it, you said: "Yes, I drove part way, but it's ok. My car's a Honda, not a Ford!" That reasoning is invalid and makes no sense, because regardless of what type of car it was, you still drove when it was prohibited! And the same is true in regards to Mosaic Law good works vs. non-Mosaic Law good works. Even though they are in different categories or are different types of good works, both Mosaic Law and non-Mosaic Law good works are prohibited in Scripture as a means of salvation in whole or in part.

It's a false dichotomy to say that the Mosaic Law is somehow different from human good works. Paul combines them together when he says it's "works of the Law" (Gal. 2:16b; cf. Rom. 3:20; Phil. 3:9). So if that's your argument, it's self-refuting because Ephesians 2:8-9 doesn't mention the Mosaic Law; it simply says that salvation is "not of works, so that no one can boast" (Eph. 2:9; cf. Rom. 4:4-5; Titus 3:5). Put the emphasis on the phrase, "so that no one can boast" (Eph. 2:9b) and you will see it excludes all human good works for salvation -- in whole or in part, and in whatever form they take!

So God's Word rules out BOTH the "Mosaic Law good works" AND the "non-Mosaic Law good works" added to faith in Christ for salvation. Neither can be added to faith in Christ for salvation. Both are ruled out! The New Testament affirms that works of the Mosaic Law are excluded as a basis for salvation (e.g., Rom. 3:19-20; Gal. 2:16; Phil. 3:9). Furthermore, other passages rule out all human good works—whether under the Law or not—as a means of justification (e.g., Rom. 4:1-5; Eph. 2:8-9; Titus 3:5).

Roman Catholics and Salvation By Grace

In your "last" comment you brought up Roman Catholics. Thank you for finally giving the reason why you hold your view, which is that you don't think the road to heaven is so narrow as to exclude religious people such as the Roman Catholics who believe in a "faith plus works" gospel. Apparently you think Roman Catholics believe in faith alone?! Actually Roman Catholics don't agree with you on that (on good works only for sanctification, but not for justification), so you are misrepresenting Roman Catholic doctrine. And in your last comment the reason why you're saying that finally comes out. You don't think Roman Catholics are lost. Your real problem is you don't believe the way to heaven is so narrow as to be through Christ alone apart from works (see John 14:6). But Jesus said, "The way is broad that leads to destruction, and many are those who find it. But the way is narrow that leads to life, and few are those who find it" (Matthew 7:13-14).

You mentioned Ken Wilson, but even he acknowledges that "Catholics overtly require works for justification (faith + works → justification)."[2] So you are misrepresenting what Roman Catholics believe and teach. Yes, Roman Catholics can be saved if and when they place their complete trust in Jesus Christ alone for salvation (apart from works), but that is THE EXCEPTION among Roman Catholics, not the rule. And furthermore, if and when a Roman Catholic gets saved, they are saved IN SPITE OF the Roman Catholic Church, not because of it. In order to get saved, a Roman Catholic must repent (change their mind) and trust in Christ alone for salvation; not faith plus works (as the RCC teaches).

What you're saying is that since Roman Catholics supposedly "believe in Jesus," they're true Christians. But not so. Notice what Lance Latham says in his book The Two Gospels, when he writes the following under the heading "Believe in Jesus" (p. 46): "Ask any Roman Catholic, 'Do you believe in Jesus Christ?' and he will answer, 'Of course.' Is this man therefore saved? The real question is, 'Where is your hope?' Are you DEPENDING upon Christ and what He has done at Calvary alone, or is your hope in penances performed, masses, baptism and so forth? This is not faith in Christ and His work; this is faith in YOUR own works, faithfulness to church, and therefore cannot SAVE!" Sadly, the vast majority of Roman Catholics don't actually "believe in Jesus" in the biblical sense, because according to the Bible, belief excludes human good works (see Romans 4:4-5). Evangelical theologians largely agree on this point.[1] 

Let's take a closer look at Ephesians 2:8-9, particularly as it applies to what is taught by the Roman Catholic Church regarding how to be saved. In Eph. 2:8-9, Paul says that salvation is "not by works, so that no one can boast" (v. 9). I already went into great detail in some of my previous comments explaining that even doing one good work for salvation or added to faith in Christ would give a person something to boast about, which Paul says is not the way to be saved (Eph. 2:9). So Paul rules that out. But you want to rule it in! You want to allow for it. You want to allow someone such as a Roman Catholic to add in those good works FOR salvation and allow for them to still get saved that way. But Paul rules that out when he says, "not by works so that no one can boast" (Eph. 2:9).

You seem unwilling to accept the biblical truth that, as Jesus said: "The way is BROAD that leads to destruction, and MANY are those who find it. But the way is NARROW that leads to life, and FEW are those who find it" (Matt. 7:13-14). And Jesus says elsewhere that He is the ONLY way to heaven, not "a way" but "the way" (Jn. 14:6). Please don't misunderstand, no one is saying that all Romans Catholics are lost. I've personally met some saved Roman Catholics. They just don't want to leave the Romans Catholic Church for whatever reason. One lady I met who was a Roman Catholic agreed with me that salvation is by grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone, and she of course disagreed with the Roman Catholic church on that because they teach that salvation is by faith plus works. But she didn't want to leave the Roman Catholic Church because she felt that she would have a better ministry to people in the church and that she would be a better witness to people in the church if she stayed in the church herself. I don't agree with her decision to stay in the Roman Catholic Church, but I believe she's a saved woman. So some Roman Catholics are saved IN SPITE OF the false teachings of the Roman Catholic Church. So it's a straw man argument to say that we (traditional Free Grace people) think all Roman Catholics are unsaved. I don't believe that. Charles Ryrie didn't believe that. Bob Wilkin is no longer traditional Free Grace, but he doesn't believe that either. Actually, I don't know of any Free Grace person who would say that all Roman Catholics are lost. That's not what we're saying. What we're saying is that the official teachings of the Roman Catholic Church on how to be saved are unbiblical and heretical because officially they teach that human good works are necessary FOR salvation.

So you are misrepresenting Roman Catholic teachings and Roman Catholic theology when you say that they teach salvation by faith alone for justification and then they add good works only after that for sanctification. No, that is incorrect. That is NOT what the Roman Catholic Church teaches. They teach that faith AND human good works are BOTH necessary FOR justification. So you are not being honest with what the Roman Catholic Church teaches. You are saying or at least implying that they are really "brothers in Christ" because you say they teach faith alone for justification and then only after getting saved by faith alone do they add in human good works for sanctification, or that sometimes they erroneously add in good works for justification after already being saved by faith alone. Let me quote your own words so you don't think I'm making this up. You said: "Wilson and I are not advocating a 'faith plus works Gospel' as you have accused us, but rather that people sometimes believe a simple Gospel 'Jesus is the Messiah, the Divine and human Son of God,' . . . but then are told erroneously additional steps that they must believe, such as repent of individual sins, confess, be baptized, etc." That's what you said. And then you immediately mentioned the "Roman Catholic" as an example of that. So you are NOT being honest with what the Roman Catholic church teaches, because they DON'T teach what you just said. Rather, the Roman Catholic Church does indeed teach a "faith plus works Gospel"! Are you denying that?! So your example of a "Roman Catholic" proves my point! And if you are saying that not every Roman Catholic adheres to the official teachings of the Roman Catholic Church, I already told you that myself. So if that's your argument, you are turning the exception (or the exceptions) into the rule -- and that's a logical fallacy! That logical fallacy is called "The Converse Accident Fallacy" or "The Reverse Accident Fallacy". It has been defined thus: "The Converse Accident Fallacy occurs when a handful of exceptions are used to disprove a generally accepted rule. It can also be considered a dishonest argument if done intentionally." Again let me be clear: no one in saying that a Roman Catholic can't get saved by faith alone; I just told you they can. But that is the exception, not the rule. And more importantly, they got saved IN SPITE OF the teachings of the Roman Catholic Church, not because of the teachings of the Roman Catholic Church. So you are turning the exception into the rule and ignoring the official teachings of the Roman Catholic Church. Actually, it's worse because you are blatantly misrepresenting the official teachings of the Roman Catholic Church. They do in fact teach a "faith plus works Gospel"! Yet you want to chastise me for pointing that out? I dare say that you are not so naïve as to be ignorant of the official teachings of the Roman Catholic Church in regards to salvation. Thus, you are knowingly misrepresenting the facts, sir. And I exhort you to honesty, which you are sorely lacking here. You brought up Ken Wilson, but he acknowledges that "Catholics overtly require works for justification (faith + works → justification)." So that is what Roman Catholics teach, even according to Wilson.

The Roman Catholic Church's official teachings also refute your argument about works alone for salvation (or faith vs. works) because like the false teachers in Acts 15:1, the Roman Catholic Church requires people (born-again Christians) to ADD WORKS TO FAITH in order to get saved. So, as those in Acts 15, the Roman Catholic Church is not teaching faith vs. works, but rather faith plus works for salvation. Ken Wilson even acknowledges this, as I pointed out above. So that disproves your premise, which is that we're only talking about one or the other ("faith" or "works"), not both, for salvation. But the Roman Catholics (like the false teachers in Acts 15:1) require born-again Christians to ADD WORKS to their faith in order to truly be saved according to the Roman Catholic Church. So it's the same idea. Whether we are talking about Mosaic Law human good works (as in Acts 15:1) or non-Mosaic Law human good works (as the Roman Catholic Church requires for salvation), in each case those human good works are being ADDED to faith alone for salvation. So instead of faith alone for salvation, they are requiring FAITH PLUS WORKS for salvation. Again, Wilson acknowledges this in regards to the Roman Catholic Church. So that refutes your point that it's works vs. faith alone. It's not. It's works PLUS faith alone (or faith alone plus works, however you want to say it) -- which is no longer "faith alone" when works are added to it as a requirement FOR salvation. Again, Wilson acknowledges that "Catholics overtly require works for justification (faith + works → justification)." So that is what we are talking about. You brought up the example of the "Roman Catholic". And I just told you what the Roman Catholic Church officially teaches and what the vast majority of Roman Catholics believe about how to get saved. They believe in "faith plus works" FOR salvation. But you are trying to twist the facts and say in essence, "Oh no, no. That is not what they believe. They are actually brothers in Christ because they believe in faith alone for salvation and then only after they get saved by faith alone, only then do they mistakenly add works as a requirement for salvation." That's essentially what you're saying. And that is simply not true, at least for the VAST MAJORITY of Roman Catholics. Like I said, I agree that a Roman Catholic can get saved. I even told you that I've met some saved Roman Catholics. But that is the EXCEPTION, not the rule. And those saved Roman Catholics personally told me that they DISAGREE with the official teachings of the Roman Catholic Church on how to be saved, which is faith plus works for salvation. So that's why I'm saying that you are really not being honest with what Roman Catholics believe and teach. Because it's faith plus works FOR salvation, as Wilson even acknowledges. So your entire argument about how Roman Catholics are Christians that we should "fellowship" with because they actually believe in faith alone for salvation and only after that (according to you) do they erroneously add works for salvation is simply not true. I would say that you might be able to find 1 in 1000 or (at best) maybe 1 in 100 Roman Catholics who might agree with you on that. So you are essentially building a doctrine on something that at best maybe only 1% of Roman Catholics actually believe, and you're portraying it as if that represents the majority of Roman Catholics or that it's the official view of the Roman Catholic Church, neither of which are true. So you are actually being dishonest and misrepresenting the facts. Furthermore, your entire scenario completely misses the point because it is the official teachings of the Roman Catholic Church that are what the vast majority of Roman Catholics agree with and believe. If you are going to start making the exceptions the rule, and argue something based on what a few people within the group might believe in distinction to (or in contrast to) the beliefs of the larger whole, then that is not really being honest with the facts and it's just a VERY weak argument. It's actually a logical fallacy, as I pointed out above. Just think about how fallacious that way of thinking is! Because you could find practically any belief you want that way in some obscure corner of society and latch onto it: you could find some fringe view of a fringe element within a group; whether it is among Roman Catholics or any other group. And you could say, "These people claim to be Roman Catholics, and look what they believe! Therefore I will use their fringe view to represent everyone within their group." That's essentially what you're doing with the Roman Catholics when you say, "[It is not] a 'faith plus works Gospel' as you have accused us, but rather that people sometimes believe a simple Gospel 'Jesus is the Messiah, the Divine and human Son of God,' . . . but then are told erroneously additional steps that they must believe, such as repent of individual sins, confess, be baptized, etc." In your next sentence after that statement you mentioned "Roman Catholic[s]". The truth is, you are completely misrepresenting what Roman Catholics teach and believe. Because Roman Catholics DON'T believe what you just said in that statement of yours that I quoted. You qualified it by saying "people sometimes believe" (i.e. "people sometimes believe" in faith alone and then erroneously add works for salvation after getting saved). But like I said, you are essentially building a case based on a "fringe" view that is not held by the larger group. So it's a logical fallacy and a dishonest argument. Furthermore, instead of asking "What do the Scriptures say?" (Rom. 4:3; Gal. 4:30), you are now basing your beliefs on what "people sometimes believe"! With that one statement of yours, you stepped off the solid foundation of God's Word and stepped into the sinking sand of subjectivism and into the quagmire of theological speculation. You need to go back to the Bible! The real problem is that you are starting with your theological presupposition that the way to heaven can't be so narrow as to exclude millions of Roman Catholics who lived during the Dark Ages and who never heard the true gospel of salvation by grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone. The fact that millions of people went to hell during the Dark Ages (or during any other time in human history) is a fact that I too find greatly saddening, but I'm not going to water-down the gospel to accommodate society! That's backwards! 

What you are doing is this: you are trying to figure out a theological work-around to the clear teaching of Scripture on how to be saved. Because you think it's too narrow. You can't stomach the sad but true reality that millions of people went to hell during the Dark Ages if what the Bible says is true. But did not Jesus say, "The way is broad that leads to destruction, and many are those who find it"? Jesus went on to say, "The way is narrow that leads to life, and few are those who find it" (Matthew 7:13-14). It's a sad reality. But changing the gospel or watering-down the gospel isn't the answer. Another sad reality is the unsaved heathen who have never heard the gospel. Are you going to water-down the gospel for them too? To be consistent you would need to do exactly that. Please tell me, how are THEY saved? Are they saved by faith plus erroneously adding works too? They don't even have faith! The Bible says, "Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the Word of Christ" (Rom. 10:17, NASB). It seems that you have quite a predicament on your hands to get them through the pearly gates! Why not side with Jesus when He said, "The way is BROAD that leads to destruction, and MANY are those who go that way. But the way is NARROW that leads to life, and FEW are those who find it." Believe the words of Jesus and it solves your theological problem! Accept the fact that a "few" get saved compared to the "many" who don't! Let me be clear: I'm NOT saying that no one got saved during the Dark Ages, but there were "few" -- at least according to Jesus. And I'd rather side with Jesus than resort to theological speculation about what people may or may not have believed during the Dark Ages! The Bible says, "Let God be true, and every man a liar" (Rom. 3:4).

Faith, Works, or Faith Plus Works?

You said: "Someone thinking that they need to live an obedient Christian life in addition to Faith in Messiah to be saved is totally different to believing in the Mosaic law ALONE for justification." First of all, in Acts 15:1 the issue was not "believing in the Mosaic law ALONE for justification." Look at the text. What does it say? It says: "Some men came down from Judea and began teaching THE BROTHERS, 'Unless you are circumcised according to the custom of Moses, you cannot be saved.'" (Acts 15:1, NASB, emphasis added). So as I pointed out to you in my previous comments (which you completely did not address), the false teachers said those words to ALREADY SAVED PEOPLE ("brothers," i.e., brothers in Christ). So the false teachers were telling the brethren that they needed to ADD the Mosaic Law requirement of circumcision (a human good work) to the gospel in order to be saved. I explained this to you in detail in my previous comments. I'm surprised that you didn't address it or (if you had a question about it) that you didn't ask me to explain it or elaborate on it in greater detail. This is why I say that you are not really being honest with what I'm saying. Because you are ignoring what I've written and pretending like I didn't address your concerns when I already did IN DETAIL in my previous comments. Not to mention that you are misrepresenting me by saying that I have a "problem" with the gospel. No, I have a problem with you ADDING TO the gospel. That's what I have a problem with, and you are not being honest about that.

The Bible on Grace vs. Works

The following analysis of charis (the Greek word for grace) is taken from Richard Trench's classic book, Synonyms of the New Testament: "There has often been occasion to observe the manner in which Greek words taken up into Christian use are glorified and transformed, seeming to have waited for this adoption of them, to come to their full rights, and to reveal all the depth and riches of meaning which they contained, or might be made to contain. Charis is one of these . . . Already, it is true, . . . there were preparations for this glorification of meaning to which charis was destined. These lay in the fact that already in the ethical terminology of the Greek schools charis implied ever a favour freely done, without claim or expectation of return—the word being thus predisposed to receive its new emphasis, its religious, I may say its dogmatic, significance; to set forth the entire and absolute freeness of the lovingkindness of God to men. Thus Aristotle, defining charis, lays the whole stress on this very point, that it is conferred freely, with no expectation of return, and finding its only motive in the bounty and free-heartedness of the giver (Rhet. ii. 7) . . . cf. Rom. 3:24, δωρεὰν τῇ αὐτοῦ χάριτι ['freely by His grace']; 5:15, 17; 12:3, 6; 15:15; Ephes. 2:8; 4:7...and compare Rom. 11:6, where St. Paul sets charis ['grace'] and erga ['works'] over against one another in directest antithesis, showing that they mutually exclude one another, it being of the essence of whatever is owed to charis that it is unearned and unmerited,—as Augustine urges so often, 'gratia, nisi gratis sit, non est gratia;' ['Grace, unless it is free, is not grace;'] . . . charis has thus reference to the sins of men, and is that glorious attribute of God which these sins call out and display, his free gift in their forgiveness. . . . We may say then that the charis of God, his free grace and gift, displayed in the forgiveness of sins, is extended to men, as they are guilty . . . God so loved the world . . . that He gave his only begotten Son (herein the charis), that the world through Him might be saved (cf. Ephes. 2:4; Luke 1:78, 79)."[4] 

This understanding of grace is built directly upon the Old Testament principle that salvation is obtained apart from human good works, where Abraham and David are primary examples of people in the OT who were saved by God's undeserved favor. See Paul's discussion in Romans 4:1-16, where he cites Abraham (from Genesis 15:6, = justified pre-Mosaic Law, i.e. not under the Mosaic Law) and David (from Psalm 32:1-2, justified under the Mosaic Law) as examples from the Old Testament of those who were saved by grace through faith apart from works of any kind — be it "non-Mosaic Law good works" or "Mosaic Law good works". Both are excluded from salvation by grace!

ENDNOTES:

[1] Walter Martin, "Dr. Walter Martin – Kingdom of the Cults Part 1/7 – Introduction to the Cults" (timestamp approx. 22:00 - 25:30), YouTube.

[2] Kenneth Wilson, Heresy of the Grace Evangelical Society, p. 133.

[3] See the quotes by Douglas Moo, Leon Morris, and Robert H. Mounce that are cited in my blog post "Are Roman Catholics Born Again?" (see endnote 10). For more information see Bob Wilkin's blog post titled "Works Salvation and the New Birth, Part 3" (February 15, 2021), GES blog.

[4] Richard C. Trench, Synonyms of the New Testament (Grand Rapids: Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing Company, 1958), pp. 166-171, ellipsis and bold added. Note: I transcribed some of the Greek letters into English and updated the Roman numerals of the Scripture references to the current format.